Episode Summary
With the recent scandal involving X and Elon Musk allowing users to use Grok AI to undress women and children, this issue is a major concern for parents and carers about how the digital world is shaping up for our kids.
Sarah Grimes, the leading voice in children’s online rights, returns to discuss with me the current regulatory landscape and how it evolved since our last discussion a year ago.
With AI and tech evolving at lightning speed, it has become more apparent that enforcement is often weak, leaving companies to operate in a near free-for-all.
Sara highlights how this lack of oversight allows harmful content, like deepfakes and AI-generated media, to target young users with little consequence.
We discussed how different countries are tackling these challenges in various ways. In the US, states like California are pushing forward with child protection laws, but enforcement is inconsistent. Meanwhile, Europe is leading with privacy-focused regulations, though their effectiveness is still under scrutiny.
The key takeaway? Banning kids from platforms isn’t the answer—it often pushes them to unregulated spaces like the dark web. Instead, Sara highlights that we need responsible regulation that involves kids in creating safe online environments.
By focusing on privacy-by-design and holding platforms accountable, we can work towards a digital future that respects and protects children’s rights.
Join the conversation that calls for positive collaboration and trust-building between parents and children in navigating this precarious digital landscape.
Key Takeaways
- 00:00:00 – Preview
- 00:02:47 – 2025 Review in terms of children’s rights online since Trump’s election and his influence on Big Tech.
- 00:14:25 – How does America’s lax behaviour toward regulating big tech impact Canada as the next-door neighbour with deep dependency?
- 00:20:06 – The big problem with Australia’s recently introduced social media ban for under 16s. Why Tim and Sara fundamentally disagree with this approach.
- 00:26:12 – How certain governments benefit from preventing young generations from accessing social media – ie, their only source of news and geopolitical events!
- 00:30:34 – The impact of Silicon Valley’s “move fast and break things” philosophy on children’s online safety – a philosophy shared by Epstein!
- 00:35:30 – The long-term impact of banning children from accessing online platforms on their education and the normalisation of dangerous trends, such as the manosphere.
- 00:44:20 – Should social media platforms finally be treated and regulated as media outlets and content publishers?
- 00:49:57 – Early signs of whether the Australian ban is effective, with emerging contradictory arguments.
- 00:58:18 – Sara’s direct response to critics who support tech restrictions for children and social media bans.
- 01:04:16 – The surprising attitude of young people toward online privacy
- 01:15:16 – How banning children further exposes their private data to big tech.
- 01:20:02 – What has Sara learnt from her work with the United Nations about other countries’ concerns about Trump’s Silicon Valley and children’s online safety?
Our Favourite Quote from This Episode
References and Citations
-
Debate: Social media in children and young people – time for a ban? Beyond the ban – empowering parents and schools to keep adolescents safe on social media – National Library of Medicine
-
Generative AI is Damaging Children’s Mental Health and Safety in the Age of “Brain Rot”
-
A tale of two angers: The manosphere, the femosphere and the gender politics of mediated rage – Sage Journals
-
Welcome to the femosphere, the latest dark, toxic corner of the internet… for women – The Guardian
-
“We are totally exposed”: Young people share concerns about social media’s impact on privacy and mental health in global survey – 2023 report from Amnesty International
-
X Users Using Elon Musk’s Grok AI to “Unblur” Photos of Children in Epstein Files – The Retort
-
Why 2025 Is The Era of Internet of Sh*t (IoS)
-
“Brain rot” is the 2024 Word of the Year — why is this bad news?
-
More misinformation expected as Meta seeks to end fact-checking program – University of Michigan
-
Far-right governments seek to cut billions of euros from research in Europe – Nature
-
Exploring Parent-Child Perceptions on Safety in Generative AI: Concerns, Mitigation Strategies, and Design Implications
-
The myth of Meta’s free speech places democracy at risk
-
It’s not just boomers, young people are voting far right too
-
Why Meta’s Fact-Checking Change Could Lead to More Misinformation on Facebook and Instagram
-
Summon a demon and bind it: A grounded theory of LLM red teaming
-
Advancing child-centred approaches to AI – The Alan Turing Institute
-
Everyone AI – Purposeful and Safe AI for children