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Cindy Gallop: AI bosses fuel and benefit from toxic masculinity

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Episode Summary

I had the pleasure of hosting Cindy Gallop, the visionary founder and CEO of “Make Love Not Porn” social platform.

Our conversation delved into her unique entrepreneurial journey, the rise of toxic masculinity, and the critical role of human curation in content moderation.

Cindy passionately argues that the tech industry’s reluctance to embrace human curation is not only damaging to society but also a missed business opportunity.

Her platform, “Make Love Not Porn,” stands out by using 100% human curation to ensure all content is safe, consensual, and reflective of real-world experiences, unlike mainstream porn sites.

We also tackled the alarming rise of toxic masculinity and rape culture, issues exacerbated by the easy accessibility of hardcore porn. Cindy believes that initiatives like hers, which aim to normalise and socialise real-world sex, can significantly counter these negative trends.

Despite facing challenges such as funding difficulties and advertising restrictions, Cindy remains optimistic about the potential for change. She calls on the tech and financial sectors to prioritise funding female founders, who she believes bring a crucial perspective to both the industry and society.

Join us in this powerful conversation, and consider the important thoughts Cindy shares.

* This conversation was recorded in 2024, before I decided to launch the podcast. Yet the talking points are so relevant to today’s hype-driven AI world that I felt the episode needed to be revived and included in the CEOR debates. It also demonstrates the reality that AI has not really changed much. It’s my counterparts behind the technology who keep on moving the goalposts.

Key Takeaways

(YouTube Timestamps)
  • 00:00:00 – Preview
  • 00:04:28 – Cindy’s entrepreneurship journey and discovery of the toxic sexual habits of young men
  • 00:12:48 – Societies’ failure in teaching and understanding the meaning of good sexual values and positive behaviours
  • 00:25:06 – Why is there such a taboo around sex, and how toxic masculinity shaped the tech sector
  • 00:33:17 – How Cindy targets the right investors and her exit strategy with MLNP and her academy
  • 00:40:45 – How Cindy faces down the current rise of toxic masculinity and the prospering online manosphere
  • 00:50:43 – Why we need to urgently rebuild the future of the Internet through female and minority points of view
  • 00:52:01 – Cindy’s AI project built on Algorithm for Consent on exclusive MLNP “LVM” training data
  • 00:54:37 – The consequences of social media’s and BigTech’s failure to implement human-curation models to prioritise AI
  • 00:58:14 – How positive tech can influence mass behavioural change and sexual attitude at scale

Our Favourite Quote from This Episode

I don’t wait for things to change, I make them change!

About our Guest

Cindy Gallop

The CEO Retort Guest Profile: Cindy Gallop.

Cindy has turned her illustrious advertising career into a lifelong pursuit of changing the world, her way — one daring project after another. After all her success in the advertising world, Cindy resigned as chairman of BBH in 2005 to do something different.

Today, she continues to work in branding and advertising as a consultant, but is also tending to some fascinating projects of her own. She launched MakeLoveNotPorn at TED2009, in an attempt to squash the myths of hardcore pornography and to begin a dialogue around how real people have sex.

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