Episode Summary
I had the pleasure of hosting Cindy Gallop, the visionary founder and CEO of “Make Love Not Porn” social platform.
Our conversation delved into her unique entrepreneurial journey, the rise of toxic masculinity, and the critical role of human curation in content moderation.
Cindy passionately argues that the tech industry’s reluctance to embrace human curation is not only damaging to society but also a missed business opportunity.
Her platform, “Make Love Not Porn,” stands out by using 100% human curation to ensure all content is safe, consensual, and reflective of real-world experiences, unlike mainstream porn sites.
We also tackled the alarming rise of toxic masculinity and rape culture, issues exacerbated by the easy accessibility of hardcore porn. Cindy believes that initiatives like hers, which aim to normalise and socialise real-world sex, can significantly counter these negative trends.
Despite facing challenges such as funding difficulties and advertising restrictions, Cindy remains optimistic about the potential for change. She calls on the tech and financial sectors to prioritise funding female founders, who she believes bring a crucial perspective to both the industry and society.
Join us in this powerful conversation, and consider the important thoughts Cindy shares.
* This conversation was recorded in 2024, before I decided to launch the podcast. Yet the talking points are so relevant to today’s hype-driven AI world that I felt the episode needed to be revived and included in the CEOR debates. It also demonstrates the reality that AI has not really changed much. It’s my counterparts behind the technology who keep on moving the goalposts.
Key Takeaways
- 00:00:00 – Preview
- 00:04:28 – Cindy’s entrepreneurship journey and discovery of the toxic sexual habits of young men
- 00:12:48 – Societies’ failure in teaching and understanding the meaning of good sexual values and positive behaviours
- 00:25:06 – Why is there such a taboo around sex, and how toxic masculinity shaped the tech sector
- 00:33:17 – How Cindy targets the right investors and her exit strategy with MLNP and her academy
- 00:40:45 – How Cindy faces down the current rise of toxic masculinity and the prospering online manosphere
- 00:50:43 – Why we need to urgently rebuild the future of the Internet through female and minority points of view
- 00:52:01 – Cindy’s AI project built on Algorithm for Consent on exclusive MLNP “LVM” training data
- 00:54:37 – The consequences of social media’s and BigTech’s failure to implement human-curation models to prioritise AI
- 00:58:14 – How positive tech can influence mass behavioural change and sexual attitude at scale
Our Favourite Quote from This Episode
References and Citations
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Cindy’s TED 2009 Launch of MakeLoveNotPorn that went viral on YouTube
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UK NPCC Report — Violence Against Women and Girls
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AI tools may soon manipulate people’s online decision-making, say researchers – The Guardian
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Frustrated with today’s ‘attention economy’? You’re really going to hate what comes next – Fast Company
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Forget the attention economy. Prepare for the intention economy – Fast Company
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Morally corrupt innovations are the easiest innovations to create – It’s the lazy approach with dangerous consequences – CEOR
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Sara Grimes: How Tech and AI Ignore Children’s Rights
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Trust, attitudes and use of artificial intelligence: A global study 2025 – KPMG
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AI-generated ‘slop’ is slowly killing the internet, so why is nobody trying to stop it? – The Guardian
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The Future of AI Under Trump and Project 2025
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The End of AI Utopia Thanks to Dumb Politics
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Generative AI is Damaging Children’s Mental Health and Safety in the Age of “Brain Rot”
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Why 2025 Is The Era of Internet of Sh*t (IoS)
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“Brain rot” is the 2024 Word of the Year — why is this bad news?